You pay for your homeless problem one way or another.
I was coming from the angle of giving people a house has been tried. It alone doesn't work. If you move the bottom 20% into the communities it causes problems. If you put them in one place it causes problems. I don't see just giving people a home as solving the problem at all. We've been trying it. Doesn't work. Even if you give them the land and the home and they own it outright because you're enlightened and love all your fellow man... They don't have the ability to maintain it. Do you send them to home maintenance school? For most the home will be in a state of disrepair in a matter of a decade...if you're lucky.
Howabout for the purposes of this discussion, we change the term “home” to “shelter”?
If someone wants a “home”, that’s something that takes Time to create.
You can get hold of a building, of one form or another, using whatever means are at your disposal. But then it takes a little while to turn that into an actual “home”.
(You get my drift there tG?)
I don’t think people should or *CAN* be given “homes”. Wherever you lay your hat, right?
But I do think that a responsible and civilised Society ought, at a minimum, to provide residential shelter to those who are unable to secure it themselves.
What would be the nature of those shelters? Their locations?
Well, in my mind, I’m thinking of the kind of buildings that Norway uses to house its criminal offenders.
Fairly straightforward, fairly Spartan units, in blocks.
Not the kind of place most of us would ever imagine making a home out of, but certainly somewhere to shelter and to use as an address for job applications and the such.
Well, you know how I feel about Centralisation…
I’d give the smallest and most local governmental entity (e.g. a Parish Council, County Council &c.) whatever funding was required to provide and maintain these shelters, in whatever way they deem appropriate to their local Community and Culture.
They could stick all their shelters in one underground and out-of-sight compound; or individual condos on the beach-front… Whatever *THEY* deem appropriate.
The principles would be that nobody should live without a private shelter; and anyone who goes out of their way to stigmatise those who can’t afford their own shelters, should probably check the financial and social foundations of their “own” shelters/homes.
Our parents made the world a much much better place than they inherited from their parents. We have continued along those lines.
The World that our Children are inheriting tG, is *MUCH*, much worse than that enjoyed by our parents and us.
There is basically only a single Global Nation now, called “Capitalism”. And National Law is that all Children must be forced into Capitalist-Shapes, so that they can continue to progress Capitalism.
Even as virtually *ALL* of our Children know better than their Parents: Capitalism is destroying our World.
Not just Environmentally, but Socially.
We even load our Best and Brightest Children up with a mountain of financial debt, so that when they leave College, they know that they’re First and Foremost Duty to Capitalism, is to Repay Their Debts.
Meanwhile, naked criminality at the highest echelons of Capitalism (the level above “Government”) continues to promote Debt as the answer to all of the World’s Problems.
In my Experience tG: none but the most neuroticised (by their parents) kids are buying any of that bullshit anymore.
Our kids need to do the same after we are gone for their children. If they aren't competent. They are fucked. So are their children. Not us.
I think the issue is that individual competencies have displace Collective Competency.
Some of us as individuals may be relatively competent at surviving the rigours of our World; but I’m not seeing any evidence of Collective Competency.
In fact – and again, from my own Experience – I’d say Collective Competency declines in inverse proportion to the number of Individual “Competents” involved.
We were taught by our Parents to “Stand on our own two feet!”; but our Kids are quickly understanding that if they don’t figure out how to Stand Together: every One of them is fucked.
The past emphases on Individual Achievement and Capability have created a brutal World, in which our major goal as parents is to equip our Children with what *WE* feel *THEY* need to survive this nasty World we brought them into.
Who will maintain this technology after we're gone if you don't create competent adults? Will they even care to maintain it?
Technology will maintain technology.
Automated Intelligence, Process Automation, Robotics… There’s a whole bunch of Technology out there, already making Human Work redundant.
And wasn’t that always the point of the Industrial and Digital Revolutions? To give us *ALL* much more Leisure Time?
But because Capitalism…
We have obscenely wealthy individuals, who do nothing like what any of us would call “work”, sitting atop piles of wealth that neither they nor the next three generations of their family could possibly spend in all their Lifetimes…
…Whilst the Rest of Us live Hand-to-Mouth Existences, because that is all we have been Conditioned to Know.
If kids want to have a family they need to be having kids in their early thirties. Much later than that and they risk dying before they raise their children and the risk of genetic disorders drastically increases.
I’ll let Holyboy 3.0 know.
I was 43 and HW was 44 when he was born.
We as adults are starting to wake-up to the nightmare of our addiction to money.I don't know what you're on about here.
We should wake up to the fact that trying to integrate our Children into Capitalism, as our first and foremost priority as Parents, is not something they are going to put up with any more.
Our Children are rejecting the notion that they Exist purely to make/acquire/accumulate money.
But the society of the future is going to need doctors, teachers, nurses, chemist, biologist, programmers, architects, engineers. It doesn't need perpetual children.
I don’t think I could disagree any more fundamentally.
Most of the problems I see currently in Society, are caused by the ridiculous notion that *EVERYONE MUST WORK*.
Look at the State of the Place!
Billions of Humans rushing around doing shit they don’t want to do, but are compelled to do, for fear of the Poor-House (or worse).
Why aren’t Humans given the *CHOICE* whether to work or not?
I'm encouraging my children to follow their passions. Find something they enjoy and find a way to help as many people as they can doing it. Because they can make a good living and have a good life doing that. If you call that capitalism than...yes. That is one of my priorities as a parent.
I absolutely do *NOT* call that “Capitalism” – not by a long stretch. My approach to parenting is identical – and I know *I’M* not a Capitalist!
The only bit that tilts that way is “make a good living”.
I don’t include that in my Parenting.
I say:Do whatever you enjoy doing, especially if that includes helping as many others to help make Our World a nicer, more gentle place.
But don’t worry about ‘making a good living’, because that is impossible for you.