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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:34 am 
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I thought scrum was a wrestling term.


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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(It's actually a Rugby term SG.)

In the context of "Ways of Working", "Scrum" is just a word.

It describes people coming together for an intense but brief period of collective activity, from which awareness of the overall team status is derived.

It's just a quick check in; attendance isn't compulsory; it's as much about checking in with your colleagues as the day gets underway.

It's a Many-to-Many Relationship.

Think about... Where each team member is going to be for the forthcoming day.

The team member knows, obviously. But at this stage: no-one else.

So the team member tells his TL/Scrum-Master that he is going to be WFH. Now, two people know.

Now that information has to be either pulled by other team members, from the guy (who is WFH) and his Scrum-Master; or pushed by the guy or his Scrum-Master.

Email? Well, can't guarantee when someone is going to read an Email, or even if...

"Where's Bob today?"

"Didn't you read your Email? He's WFH?"

"Oh, right. Thanks."

(Repeat until everyone who needs to know that Bob is WFH, knows that.)

Or:

Daily Scrum, which Bob dials into from home, and tells everyone at the same time: I'm WFH.

Job done.

Now multiply that by all the other bits of info that fly around a team, and the efficiency gains of a daily Stand-Up are clear.

But as with all of these things, the DSU is just a tool. It might work OOB for a team; it might never work; or it might work with some tuning and customisation.

The trick is to have an Operational Philosophy; but not be dogmatic about it.

Introducing a new working concept is the same as introducing new staff, processes or plant.

You think it should work, but you'll give it a go and see. It might work, in which case stick with it; or it might not, in which case drop it.

By it's always advisable to not answer the question, "Did you try?", with a "No. I didn't think there was any point".

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:39 pm 
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I've got a team that covers IT support, training, development and project management (both technical and business systems). All quite distinct in terms of what they actually do day to day, but all impacting on each other. Keeping them aligned to our common goal of optimisation and improvement requires tight communication, but the current way of working together (2 x catch-ups a week + far too much ad-hoc discussions and decision making) is far from optimal. I suspect a daily quick meet will therefore really help.

I'm halfway through floating the idea with individuals with the team, and so far the response has been overwhelmingly positive. Assuming all are game then I look forward to giving it a proper go starting next week.

:-bd

Added: We utilise PaaS + various managed services, in you were wondering where all my techies were. These in themselves require managing but not quite as much!

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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We utilise PaaS


Product As A Service? Mate, don't you know that's the scum of the Earth way of doing software?

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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We utilise PaaS


Product As A Service? Mate, don't you know that's the scum of the Earth way of doing software?


Platform, not Product.

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Slacks wrote:
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We utilise PaaS


Product As A Service? Mate, don't you know that's the scum of the Earth way of doing software?


Platform, not Product.


Same deal. It's the scum of the Earth way of doing software.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:08 pm 
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SomeGuy wrote:
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Product As A Service? Mate, don't you know that's the scum of the Earth way of doing software?


Platform, not Product.


Same deal. It's the scum of the Earth way of doing software.


I'm getting the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about, but feel free to elaborate and enlighten me!

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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Slacks wrote:
I'm getting the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about, but feel free to elaborate and enlighten me!


Product/Platform As A Service: Continuous iteration development over a set lifetime after development. Aka perpetual beta test.

You don't deliver a finished product to start, so launch now patch it later is the norm. Furthermore when you stop support it immediately becomes obsolete rather than finished.

While I'm sure you're doing it better than Electronic Arts, it's the scummy way of doing it compared to delivering a finished and complete product and offering support because you can cut it off at any point without delivering what was promised. In short, you're foisting a beta on what should be complete.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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SomeGuy wrote:
Slacks wrote:
I'm getting the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about, but feel free to elaborate and enlighten me!


Product/Platform As A Service: Continuous iteration development over a set lifetime after development. Aka perpetual beta test.

You don't deliver a finished product to start, so launch now patch it later is the norm. Furthermore when you stop support it immediately becomes obsolete rather than finished.

While I'm sure you're doing it better than Electronic Arts, it's the scummy way of doing it compared to delivering a finished and complete product and offering support because you can cut it off at any point without delivering what was promised. In short, you're foisting a beta on what should be complete.


No

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SomeGuy wrote:
Slacks wrote:
I'm getting the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about, but feel free to elaborate and enlighten me!


Product/Platform As A Service: Continuous iteration development over a set lifetime after development. Aka perpetual beta test.

You don't deliver a finished product to start, so launch now patch it later is the norm. Furthermore when you stop support it immediately becomes obsolete rather than finished.

While I'm sure you're doing it better than Electronic Arts, it's the scummy way of doing it compared to delivering a finished and complete product and offering support because you can cut it off at any point without delivering what was promised. In short, you're foisting a beta on what should be complete.


That’s how everything is done nowadays. I also pine for the good old days when your shit came in a box with a printed manual and wasn’t constantly updated, but those days are gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:50 pm 
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PBFMullethunter wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Slacks wrote:
I'm getting the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about, but feel free to elaborate and enlighten me!


Product/Platform As A Service: Continuous iteration development over a set lifetime after development. Aka perpetual beta test.

You don't deliver a finished product to start, so launch now patch it later is the norm. Furthermore when you stop support it immediately becomes obsolete rather than finished.

While I'm sure you're doing it better than Electronic Arts, it's the scummy way of doing it compared to delivering a finished and complete product and offering support because you can cut it off at any point without delivering what was promised. In short, you're foisting a beta on what should be complete.


That’s how everything is done nowadays. I also pine for the good old days when your shit came in a box with a printed manual and wasn’t constantly updated, but those days are gone.


Poppycock.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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SomeGuy wrote:
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SomeGuy wrote:

Product/Platform As A Service: Continuous iteration development over a set lifetime after development. Aka perpetual beta test.

You don't deliver a finished product to start, so launch now patch it later is the norm. Furthermore when you stop support it immediately becomes obsolete rather than finished.

While I'm sure you're doing it better than Electronic Arts, it's the scummy way of doing it compared to delivering a finished and complete product and offering support because you can cut it off at any point without delivering what was promised. In short, you're foisting a beta on what should be complete.


That’s how everything is done nowadays. I also pine for the good old days when your shit came in a box with a printed manual and wasn’t constantly updated, but those days are gone.


Poppycock.


You still purchase your stuff from Best Buy on CD-ROM?


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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I should clarify that actually our system is an unholy combo of PaaS, IaaS and SaaS. Not through choice, but standardising isn't easy in my world.

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By the way, I just finished writing a new licensing entitlement system where I can now see every customer's use of the software in real time and disable it remotely at a time of my choosing.

I am God.

Fuck you.


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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PBFMullethunter wrote:
entitlement system


Sounds like communism

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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PBFMullethunter wrote:
By the way, I just finished writing a new licensing entitlement system where I can now see every customer's use of the software in real time and disable it remotely at a time of my choosing.

I am God.

Fuck you.

Quit playing with yourself Mullet!!! ~ Double posted ~X(


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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DEANNA79 wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
By the way, I just finished writing a new licensing entitlement system where I can now see every customer's use of the software in real time and disable it remotely at a time of my choosing.

I am God.

Fuck you.


Quit playing with yourself Mullet!!! <Q\M>


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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Slacks wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
entitlement system


Sounds like communism


Except I can kill the software instantly when they can’t afford the ever increasing annual fees. That’s capitalism of the most brutal kind.


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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DEANNA79 wrote:
DEANNA79 wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
By the way, I just finished writing a new licensing entitlement system where I can now see every customer's use of the software in real time and disable it remotely at a time of my choosing.

I am God.

Fuck you.


Quit playing with yourself Mullet!!! <Q\M>


It’s actually pretty easy to see now why God would randomly smite people who did nothing wrong... cuz it’s fucking fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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PBFMullethunter wrote:
DEANNA79 wrote:
DEANNA79 wrote:


Quit playing with yourself Mullet!!! <Q\M>


It’s actually pretty easy to see now why God would randomly smite people who did nothing wrong... cuz it’s fucking fun.

Just don't smite me you fucker... =))


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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DEANNA79 wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
DEANNA79 wrote:

Quit playing with yourself Mullet!!! <Q\M>


It’s actually pretty easy to see now why God would randomly smite people who did nothing wrong... cuz it’s fucking fun.

Just don't smite me you fucker.... =))



I'll smite all over you.

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barcelona wrote:
DEANNA79 wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:

It’s actually pretty easy to see now why God would randomly smite people who did nothing wrong... cuz it’s fucking fun.

Just don't smite me you fucker.... =))



I'll smite all over you.

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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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Just clean up the smite stains when you are done.


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 Post subject: Re: Changing Banks
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DEANNA79 wrote:
barcelona wrote:
DEANNA79 wrote:
Just don't smite me you fucker.... =))



I'll smite all over you.

Paddle is coming out Barcy… Bare ass ready?



yes please....

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