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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:35 am 
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Universal income ffs

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:11 pm 
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"It's a myth - there's no way that as a single parent you can do this on your own," he told Sky News.

"You have to have a support network, whatever the support network is, or else you will collapse, and you'll fail yourself and you'll fail your children."

Mr Zikusoka works in retail and says working full-time hours is simply not compatible with being a single-parent.



Shocker!

Now which political ideology has done there very best to break up the nuclear family and make people reliant on government welfare?

If you are fortunate to be born in the West, there are 3 easy things to do to avoid poverty:

- Finish high school.
- Get married.
- Wait until you are married to have children.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:34 pm 
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Foota wrote:
Shocker!

Now which political ideology has done there very best to break up the nuclear family and make people reliant on government welfare?

If you are fortunate to be born in the West, there are 3 easy things to do to avoid poverty:

- Finish high school.
- Get married.
- Wait until you are married to have children.


Yeah! Poor people being poor is all the poor people's fault! Single-handedly responsible for the wealth gap and everything!

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Foota wrote:
Shocker!

Now which political ideology has done there very best to break up the nuclear family and make people reliant on government welfare?

If you are fortunate to be born in the West, there are 3 easy things to do to avoid poverty:

- Finish high school.
- Get married.
- Wait until you are married to have children.


Yeah! Poor people being poor is all the poor people's fault! Single-handedly responsible for the wealth gap and everything!


Not all poor people are victims. Especially in the West.

I'd argue that single parenthood is one of the biggest factors leading to poverty in the West. I've been banging this drum for years.

Sure some single parents are real victims like widows/widowers or having an abusive spouse - but there are still a fuck-ton who have kids and have no intention of marrying or being a parent to the kids they helped create.

Here in the West, we celebrate single mothers like it is something to aspire to. Government subsidizes the behavior with welfare and pop-culture celebrates it and does not shame dead-beat dads and welfare queens.

I have a couple friends and relatives who are ready to divorce, but are choosing to cohabitate for another few years to help get their kids through school and avoid poverty. Granted these people are not abusive and are able to put up with each other and not be dysfunctional in front of their kids. But they are choosing to put their own personal happiness aside for a few more years for the good of their kids.

I think we would have less poverty if more people took care of their families and relied less on government.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:57 pm 
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Or maybe poverty = more kids. Seems to be the prevailing trend across the globe. It's not like you're getting massive population explosions in rich western nations.

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Or maybe poverty = more kids. Seems to be the prevailing trend across the globe. It's not like you're getting massive population explosions in rich western nations.


Thought we were talking about GREAT Britain and the guy quoted in the article, not the 3rd world?

It's not about the total number of kids (which is declining around most of the world). It is about the total number of kids being born to single parents and guaranteed poverty and likely a life of crime and dysfunction.

This is the scariest chart and trend in America - IMO.

There is no amount of government welfare or education that can make up for absent fathers and mothers.

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What the fuck? “Wedlock” is a completely made up concept.


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What the fuck? “Wedlock” is a completely made up concept.


A wedding "locks" you in to a marriage.

Makes it harder to walk out on kids.


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Foota wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
What the fuck? “Wedlock” is a completely made up concept.


A wedding "locks" you in to a marriage.

Makes it harder to walk out on kids.



Divorce is easy

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barcelona wrote:
Foota wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
What the fuck? “Wedlock” is a completely made up concept.


A wedding "locks" you in to a marriage.

Makes it harder to walk out on kids.



Divorce is easy


Yep.

That's the problem.


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Getting married is easier than divorce.

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Getting married is easier than divorce.



I've experienced both....



You?


Luckily my ex agreed to half of the sale of the house.. Everyone's a winner . I'm fair.

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Getting married is easier than divorce.


Divorce is something you have to do sober. You can get married drunk off your arse or high as a kite no problem. Especially in Vegas.

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Getting married is easier than divorce.


Divorce is something you have to do sober. You can get married drunk off your arse or high as a kite no problem. Especially in Vegas.



Something you'll never experience. .....

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barcelona wrote:
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Getting married is easier than divorce.


I've experienced both....

You?


Nah, only marriage. I'm a keeper!

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FEBRUARY 17, 2020

Sinn Fein’s Victory is Ireland’s ‘Brexit Moment’ When Left-Out Voters Turn on the Elite

by PATRICK COCKBURN


“People wanted to kick the government and Sinn Fein provided the shoe to do the kicking,” says Christy Parker, a journalist from the beautiful but de-industrialised town of Youghal in county Cork. He speaks of the “chasm” between the elite benefiting from Ireland’s impressive economic progress and the large part of the population that has been left behind.

Youghal never recovered from the loss of its carpet and textile factories that flourished when I grew up there in the 1950s and 1960s. Today, surveys show that many of its people still yearn for the return of the factories that once provided good jobs. One can see why: the main street is today lined with closed shops, though the cost of renting a flat is high and has doubled over the last eight or nine years.

The town is one of many places in Ireland untouched by the original Celtic Tiger or the economic recovery from the 2008 recession. “Every week people are hearing some new shocking story about the homeless trying to live off food banks somewhere in the country,” says Parker.

I have heard exactly the same phrases being used in the UK to explain why people voted for Brexit. In former coal mining and steel making towns in the Welsh Valleys, I was told that they felt betrayed by everybody in authority from the Welsh Assembly in Cardiff to Westminster and Brussels, “but it was the EU against which people decided to push back.” A man from Walsall said that people there did not care if the GDP of the UK went up or down after Brexit, because they did not consider it “to be their GDP”.

The general election on 8 February was Ireland’s “Brexit moment” when a wide variety of establishment chickens came home to roost, as many voters expressed deep dissatisfaction with the status quo. An exit poll showed that 63 per cent of voters believed that they had not benefited from recent economic improvements.

Politicians and commentators on all sides confirmed the exit poll evidence that the issues which mattered most to voters were health care, housing and homelessness. This is true but tends to obscure the fact that in Ireland, as in the UK and US, voters chose a vociferously nationalist party as the vehicle through which they expressed their rejection of the status quo. In Ireland, Sinn Fein stumbled on a winning political formula whose potency it at first underrated but raised its share of the vote from 9.5 to 24.5 per cent between disastrous local council elections last May and the triumphant general election nine months later. The change in the party’s political prospects may have been astonishing, but nobody believes them to be a flash in the pan protest vote. There is a general assumption that, if there is another general election, and Sinn Fein makes no calamitous mistakes, the party will field enough candidates, as it failed to do this time around, and will win a more complete victory.

The motives of the Irish voters may have been social and economic, but the fact that a quarter of them plumped for Sinn Fein will have a profound influence on Northern Ireland and Ireland’s relations with Britain. For the first time a single party, Sinn Fein, will be politically powerful on both sides of the border, a partner with the DUP in Belfast and potentially either a leading partner in the next Irish government in Dublin or the main opposition to it. This creates a degree of de facto Irish unity never experienced before and will be deeply resented by unionists who see the balance of power swinging against them.

Sinn Fein’s political dominance in the nationalist/Catholic community in the north, that had been showing signs of faltering, will be reinforced. But the unionist/Protestant community, which last year saw Boris Johnson renege on his promises of support, by agreeing to a customs barrier separating Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK, is feeling the ground beginning to give way under its feet.

Brian Feeney, a columnist for the Irish News in Belfast, says history shows that northern nationalists “like republican politics, but they don’t like republican violence”. Destabilisation is most likely to come from the unionist side and a sign of this may be hoax bomb threats against nationalist targets in Belfast in recent days.

A further cause of instability is the British government itself: the highly regarded Northern Ireland Secretary Julian Smith was summarily dismissed in the cabinet reshuffle this week, despite winning plaudits from all sides for brokering the power-sharing deal between Sinn Fein and the DUP that reopened the assembly at Stormont. Smith’s was reportedly sacked due to pledging to investigate alleged crimes committed by British soldiers during the Troubles.

Getting rid of Smith may be an early sign that, under Johnson, English nationalist sensitivities will get priority over keeping Northern Ireland stable. The arrogance and ignorance of Brexiteers when it comes to Ireland has infuriated Irish opinion over the last few years with the Home Secretary Priti Patel famously suggesting that the Irish, who have vivid memories of the Great Famine, could be starved into making concessions.

Voters say that Brexit was not a significant influence on the way they cast their vote in the election, probably because they wrongly supposed that the problem was solved. But Ireland remains the EU’s front line state, which gives it influence in Brussels but ensures constant friction with the UK.

From Sinn Fein’s point of view, it has been a successful 40 years’ march since it first started winning elections during the hunger strikes of 1980/81 as Daniel Finn describes in his important book One Man’s Terrorist: A Political History of the IRA. The initial slogan was that “Will anyone here object if, with a ballot box in this hand and an Armalite in this hand, we take power in Ireland?” These are not words that Sinn Fein’s many enemies are likely to allow it to forget, but during the election campaign just finished, Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil claims that the shadow of the gunman still tainted Sinn Fein were mostly ignored. The accusation may resonate with older voters, but not with younger ones with no experience of “physical force” republicanism.

Constitutional action has worked too well for Sinn Fein to try anything else. It has also cut the ground from under dissident republicans seeking to return to violence. Northern nationalists know that demographic change is propelling them towards a voting majority. In the south, they are no longer hobbled politically by memories of The Troubles.

Sinn Fein may well congratulate itself that years of struggle have produced its present successes. But it has also been extremely lucky: after trying and failing to make Irish partition an international issue for almost a century, the Brexit vote in 2016 automatically did so by potentially turning the border into an international frontier between the UK and the EU. Sinn Fein chose the right issues on which to campaign in the general election, but it was also the almost accidental beneficiary of disillusionment with traditional parties, and that disillusionment has been leading to these parties’ shock defeat in elections across the world.

Patrick Cockburn is the author of The Rise of Islamic State: ISIS and the New Sunni Revolution.

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We're getting our blue passports back! Woohoo! Made it totes worth it!

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Britons will see the return of blue passports from next month following the UK's exit from the EU.

The first of the new-style passports - described by the government as a return to an "iconic" design - will be issued and delivered in early March, the Home Office has announced.

Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "Leaving the EU gave us a unique opportunity to restore our national identity and forge a new path in the world.

"By returning to the iconic blue and gold design, the British passport will once again be entwined with our national identity and I cannot wait to travel on one."


https://news.sky.com/story/iconic-blue- ... t-11939644

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If it had a Bulldog and a Spitfire on it I'd get mine changed early, but noooooo, because snowflakes.


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I think this will be somewhere around my 12th court appearance, but I've been in various courts from Magistrates upward 100's of times.

I nearly always get a thanks from the Bench, and once even an apology.

Have Faith, my Friends.


£1700 fine and 12 month driving ban.

Could have been much worse; don't think it could have been any better.

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I think this will be somewhere around my 12th court appearance, but I've been in various courts from Magistrates upward 100's of times.

I nearly always get a thanks from the Bench, and once even an apology.

Have Faith, my Friends.


£1700 fine and 12 month driving ban.

Could have been much worse; don't think it could have been any better.

:-??


Well I hoped you learned a valuable lesson young man [-X

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More that I *FORGOT* the *MOST* important lesson:

Don't get caught.

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You forgot the Scouse 11th Commandment?

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To be fair, I had taken rather a lot of drugs, so my Memory wasn't fully optimal.

However, I did make sure I dried out before my Court appearance, just in case I forgot that I shouldn't use that as my defence.

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Holyman wrote:
Holyman wrote:
I think this will be somewhere around my 12th court appearance, but I've been in various courts from Magistrates upward 100's of times.

I nearly always get a thanks from the Bench, and once even an apology.

Have Faith, my Friends.


£1700 fine and 12 month driving ban.

Could have been much worse; don't think it could have been any better.

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Ouch.

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Holyman wrote:
Holyman wrote:
I think this will be somewhere around my 12th court appearance, but I've been in various courts from Magistrates upward 100's of times.

I nearly always get a thanks from the Bench, and once even an apology.

Have Faith, my Friends.


£1700 fine and 12 month driving ban.

Could have been much worse; don't think it could have been any better.

:-??


Good time to get it though, since public transit will have many available seats shortly.


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