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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:30 pm 
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Just thought I'd start a thread whilst our Murricun cousins are going through this histerical historical time. [**==]

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:47 pm 
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I would like to know if Trump States will secede if their champion is not elected.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:02 am 
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Are the Yanks holding some sort of Election then..?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:04 am 
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Confucius say, "Erection promises never stand up to scrutiny."

Actually I just made that up, but it's on the internet now, so its true.


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Thankfully it will all be over soon....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:52 am 
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I am emotionally preparing myself to accept the reality of President Hillary/Trump. Working threw the phases of grieving. I am done with the denial, and the anger was very real. The bargaining took ages, borderline delusional (Maybe Trump can beat Hillary, maybe he will be a one term president and not do anything too insane, maybe beneath his life long record of failure and stupidity, there is a new Reagan waiting dormantly!) and the depression is just starting to hit me. This is where Stoicism comes in handy. :((

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Whoever wins is an easy takedown for me in 2020. I'd barely have to do much more than merely show up to beat either of them.

Fortunately, I have more than that.

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Are the Yanks holding some sort of Election then..?

Nope

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:42 am 
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So Trump is starting and even further right infotainment network than Fox
He's taking O'Riley with him
This election (lol) was great marketing for that

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Thankfully it will all be over soon....



It's just beginning.....

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Gonna avoid all media tomorrow and the next day and see how long I can go without knowing.


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PBFMullethunter wrote:
Gonna avoid all media tomorrow and the next day and see how long I can go without knowing.



Just tune into this thread.. I'm sure it will entertain.

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barcelona wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
Gonna avoid all media tomorrow and the next day and see how long I can go without knowing.



Just tune into this thread.. I'm sure it will entertain.


Nope, I won't be here either. Gonna be that guy that doesn't know who won the election.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:18 am 
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PBFMullethunter wrote:
barcelona wrote:
PBFMullethunter wrote:
Gonna avoid all media tomorrow and the next day and see how long I can go without knowing.



Just tune into this thread.. I'm sure it will entertain.


Nope, I won't be here either. Gonna be that guy that doesn't know who won the election.



I admire your not-give-a-fuckness

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:06 am 
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What I'm looking forward to:

Buyer's Remorse.

So many Americans have resigned themselves to voting for Clinton, because the prospect of a President Trump appeared to be a tragedy waiting to happen. Whilst it is actually a comedy waiting to happen... And it *WILL* happen, sooner or later, if not with Trump, then with some other Joker.

But as soon as President Clinton is crowned, it is going to be very evident that really, Trump never stood a chance; and the Great Disservice he has personally done to America (and the World), has been to distract from how truly awful a Clinton II Presidency is going to be.

He should probably be shot for that.

Just as if Hilary Clinton had an ounce of integrity, or genuine loyalty to the Flag of the United States and the Republic for which it stands, she would have stepped aside in favour of a less-tainted candidate... So too should Trump have put his narcissism and spoilt-brattedness to one side, in order to allow the GOP to field a candidate that could (/would) have beaten Hilary.

Of course, the GOP Grandees (and the other Republican Candidates) are equally to blame (they should also be shot, when the Revolution comes). Because they tried to stop Trump, not because he couldn't beat Hilary, but because he rebelled against the GOP Leadership: better a losing candidate that does what he's told, than a "Republican" President that didn't follow orders.

Same goes for the Democrats:

The individual who would have been least harmful to America's Domestic and Foreign Interests, and who would have reconnected the Masses with the Empire (and thus staved off the Decline and Fall...), was Bernie Sanders.

But *THAT* couldn't be allowed to happen, could it.

Anyhoo. All of the machinations of 2016 will fade into distant memory, once the Clinton Machine gets into the Oval Office and metastasises.

So long America: it's been nice knowing you.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:28 am 
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I'd normally consider setting an alarm to see who's won and get caught up in the excitement, but whoever wins is just going to result in me groaning and hiding under my bed covers.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:03 pm 
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*****IF***** Trump were to win...

(And I still maintain that SomeGuy has a better chance of winning in 2020, and he hasn't even started getting the million signatures required in each State to get on the ballot.)

But *IF*....

Well... It would be a level of shock and surprise that would make Britons voting to leave the EU as surprising as... The most unsurprising simile you can think of.

But I guess there's still a couple of months of 2016 left, and it is a year that has delivered more than its fair share of surprise...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:34 pm 
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Holyman wrote:

Of course, the GOP Grandees (and the other Republican Candidates) are equally to blame (they should also be shot, when the Revolution comes). Because they tried to stop Trump, not because he couldn't beat Hilary, but because he rebelled against the GOP Leadership: better a losing candidate that does what he's told, than a "Republican" President that didn't follow orders.

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Huh? The RNC and GOP Leadership has supported Trump and has been mopping up his verbal diarrhea the moment Trump won the Republican primary.

Unlike the Democrat crooks, there was really no effort or maneuvering behind the scenes by the GOP leadership (like the use of "Super Delegates") to try and take the nomination away from Trump.

I've watched in great disappointment numerous so-called Conservative intellectuals and thought leaders line up behind this charlatan thinking he really represented a coherent movement of individual liberty and freedom.

I'll keep posting this chart as a reminder of what happened. But I don't think any Republican could have beaten an entertaining celebrity like Trump that was given this much free air time by the media during the primaries.

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I'll keep posting this chart as a reminder of what happened. But I don't think any Republican could have beaten an entertaining celebrity like Trump that was given this much free air time by the media during the primaries.


Why do you suppose Election outcomes in the U.S. are so dependent upon Media coverage?

In the U.K. (don't know about the rest of Europe), there are very strict rules concerning Media neutrality, particularly around Election Time... But that doesn't seem to be the case in the U.S.

For example, the MSM in the U.S. was calling the Democrat nomination for Hilary whilst Primary voters were still going to the polls. That is wholly illegal in the U.K. By law, Election Coverage on television is not allowed to begin until the polling stations have closed. And there are all sorts of watchdogs and scrutinisers making sure that coverage is evenly weighted.

But in the U.S., it seems that whomever gets (usually purchases, though Trump got a whole bunch for free...) the most Media coverage wins the Election.

That doesn't seem right somehow.

Thoughts?

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Holyman wrote:

But in the U.S., it seems that whomever gets (usually purchases, though Trump got a whole bunch for free...) the most Media coverage wins the Election.

That doesn't seem right somehow.

Thoughts?

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1st Amendment, move along, nothing to be done here ...

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francois-xavier c. wrote:
Holyman wrote:

But in the U.S., it seems that whomever gets (usually purchases, though Trump got a whole bunch for free...) the most Media coverage wins the Election.

That doesn't seem right somehow.

Thoughts?

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1st Amendment, move along, nothing to be done here ...


Heh. Pretty much this.

"Because constitution!"
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Stick fingers in ears etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:07 pm 
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Gagging for Trump. So hard.


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francois-xavier c. wrote:
Holyman wrote:

But in the U.S., it seems that whomever gets (usually purchases, though Trump got a whole bunch for free...) the most Media coverage wins the Election.

That doesn't seem right somehow.

Thoughts?

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1st Amendment, move along, nothing to be done here ...


It is not an easy fix if you bother to take a few minutes to really think about it.

Since the Media and the Government Bureaucracy are hopelessly in the tank to support Democrats ideologically and to keep their paychecks coming in terms of higher taxes, who do you propose would be the independent regulator to ensure that each candidate gets proper air time to advertise their views and policy positions? The government? You really think the government would give the Conservative anti-government candidate a fair shake?

And as the chart above shows, private money was pretty insignificant in the primary process compared to the free media Trump got.

I want as many voices as possible breaking through. I don't want government or corporate media monopolies regulating speech.


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There's a difference between government run and government funded. If there's a whiff of government meddling with our press the press get real pissy about it, but the regulator is still publicly funded, and operated in accordance with the law passed by a democratically elected parliament.

Not ideal by any stretch but vastly better than the press being biased toward the whims of rich folk.

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