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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:07 am 
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Parents call police for help, cops show up and kill their 18-year-old son

Two North Carolina parents are in shock after local police shot and killed their 18-year-old son in their own home, while they watched helplessly.

The family called police because they were worried about their son, Keith Vidal, who is schizophrenic and suffers from depression, according to local news. Vidal, armed with a small screwdriver, was apparently having a psychotic episode. Mark Wilsey, Vidal’s father, called the authorities to help deal with the situation.

An officer from the Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office and another from the Boiling Spring Lakes police department showed up to the house soon after. Eventually, a third officer from the Southport police department entered the home as well, and ordered the use of tasers to subdue Vidal. According to Wilsey, Vidal was pinned on the ground by two of the officers when a third said, “we don’t have time for this,” and shot Vidal, killing him.



http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/05/parents-call-police-for-help-cops-show-up-and-kill-their-18-year-old-son/

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:38 am 
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hahahah it's almost like they're trying to caricature themselves now

i guess american police are the bottom of the barrel like the american army; actually probably worse as those who cant get into the army probably become police

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:57 am 
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Thank FUCK for the good old British Bobby... Best Police by far.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:55 am 
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Vidal was pinned on the ground by two of the officers when a third said, “we don’t have time for this,” and shot Vidal, killing him


If that is true then surely this guy should be done for murder? Sounds slightly preposterous even for Yank Police though!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:41 am 
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I find this difficult to believe.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:47 am 
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of course its been exaggerated, but the fact remains that the cops killed their fucking kid. unless the kid drew a gun (not likely) or fucking came at them with a knife then shooting him wasnt justified. they shoulda had tasers out the second they saw him with a screw driver, or at least been fucking ready

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:09 am 
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Aye.

The only possible exaggeration that would excuse this, is if the exaggeration is how dead the kid is.

Generally speaking, I think it is fair to say that the power that (para-militarised) U.S. Law Enforcement officers have, dangerously exceeds the levels appropriate to their average intelligence.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:49 am 
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According to Wilsey, Vidal was pinned on the ground by two of the officers when a third said, “we don’t have time for this” and shot Vidal, killing him.


It's this bit that I struggle believing - a kid pinned down and restrained when a cop shoots him because he "doesn't have time" to deal with it. :-?

Not saying it isn't true mind, but it would be shockingly brutal if it is.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:04 pm 
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According to the report, the first unit on scene was a Boiling Spring Lakes officer who arrived at 12:34. He was joined shortly after by two additional BSL officers and a Brunswick County Sheriff's Deputy.

The first unit on scene reported a confrontation in the hallway, but told Brunswick County Dispatchers several times that everything was OK. Unit 104 from Southport arrived on the scene at 12:48:41, fourteen minutes after the first officer had already been on scene. Seventy seconds later, Unit 104 radioed out that he had to fire shots at the subject in order to defend himself.

The event report mirrors what family members told the media. Wilsey said his family called the police to help with his schizophrenic son Keith Vidal who had a small screwdriver in his hand. Officers used at Taser on Vidal and then shot him, according to Wilsey.

Wilsey said officers came into their home after they called for backup help when Vidal was having a schizophrenic incident.

Wilsey said officers had his son down on the ground after the teen was tased a few times and an officer said, "we don't have time for this." That's when Wilsey says the officer shot in between the officers holding the teen down, killing his son.

"There was no reason to shoot this kid," Wilsey said. "They killed my son in cold blood. We called for help and they killed my son."

The family said police shot Vidal because he had a screwdriver in his hand. They said it was a tiny screwdriver, though, that would not have hurt anyone.

Both parents said they had to watch their son die in front of them. They said Vidal had just turned 18 years old and only weighed about 90 pounds.

Vidal's mother, also at the scene, said she could not understand what happened.

"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

According to David, investigators responded to the scene immediately and began working as a team to start gathering evidence. The district attorney said investigations area a search for the truth, and he's confident that everyone involved will find the truth.

The family said they recently lost their daughter in a car accident and this is the second child they will have to bury.

Neighbors said Vidal played with their children and he never was violent. They said he had a history of depression and schizophrenia, but he was never harmful to others.

Vidal's mother said she had tried multiple times to get Vidal help for his mental illness. Emergency services treated her for a breakdown at the scene.

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http://www.wect.com/story/24367610/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-boiling-spring-lakes

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:57 pm 
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Vidal's mother said she had tried multiple times to get Vidal help for his mental illness.


How irresponsible of her not to have private health insurance that covers mental illness. Her fault, basically.

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Not to mention the fact that this probably wouldn't have happened, if the parents had been armed.

Oh, wait...

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Not to mention the fact that this probably wouldn't have happened, if the parents had been armed.


you can damn well bet that if SG's parents rang up the cops for assistance controlling one of his episodes, those pigs bloody well wouldn't have had a chance at pullin what they did on these poor bastards in North Carolina

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:30 pm 
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Aye.

The only possible exaggeration that would excuse this, is if the exaggeration is how dead the kid is.

Generally speaking, I think it is fair to say that the power that (para-militarised) U.S. Law Enforcement officers have, dangerously exceeds the levels appropriate to their average intelligence.

:(


And here you wonder why the libertarian movement is growing so strong in the US.

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No I don't.

I just wonder why it is so apparently ineffective.

:-??

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He was armed with a small screwdriver and one of the cops was a robot. That's a life or death situation.

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No I don't.

I just wonder why it is so apparently ineffective.

:-??


The same was once said of any movement. The civil rights movement popularized and idolized so much from the 1960s was an absolute joke at getting anything done just 40 years earlier. Even 20 years earlier in the midst of the Second World War it was far from effective.

The same holds true of libertarianism today. Today you may joke and belittle how small it seems or how few politicians seem to hold such ideas but the idea is gaining traction. Between intrusions of freedom such as the NSA's PRISM and the mass incompetence of Obamacare among quite a few other things people are beginning to change their attitudes towards how much government is acceptable in their lives just as people were changing their attitudes towards others of a different skin color. Just as people began waking up to the concept that discriminating black people is not a good idea 50 years ago people are waking up to the concept that government has gone far too far.

This incident like others like it, is ample proof for those who have already reached that conclusion.

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Think the county sheriffs fatally killed a good number of people last year.

And another county about 50 miles from here just ordered/acquired an MRAP
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:54 am 
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I've read lot's of mrap's are ordered for law enforcement. I guess they need those because pretty much every other american can now be labeled as a potential terrorist. They gotta be scared shittless.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:59 am 
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And also, because the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the Federal Government from using the Military for Law Enforcement.

So, rather cunningly, that has been circumvented by militarising the Police.

You have to admire the ingenuity.

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Think the county sheriffs fatally killed a good number of people last year.



As opposed to only fatally wounding them or something? ;-)

Ironic, coming from Lethal-Sting. :-"

Edit: the cops here in Tassie are mostly OK and loath to shoot anybody, although the local SWAT team did take out a police informer who was going to er, inform on them, or rather a drug squad detective who was bent.

In Victoria though the cops are way out of control and have got away with heaps of shootings involving mentally ill peeps, including a 15 year old boy. First thing they do is cover their arses; not a single one had been convicted or even fired.

Cops are mostly hopeless when it comes to dealing with mentally ill people and if those cops are armed with pistols, shit happens.

They need better training and/or specialist call out units, like SWAT for sick people, who won't make things worse.


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