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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:34 am 
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Britons get drunk more often than 35 other nations, survey finds

Meanwhile, cocaine use among people in England tops the same global list


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Wed 15 May 2019 22.00 BST


‘In the UK we don’t tend to do moderation’, says the founder of the Global Drug Survey. ‘We might have to ... think about how to advise people to get drunk drinking less.’

Britons reported getting drunk an average of 51.1 times in a 12-month period – almost once a week – the report featuring 36 countries found.

On average, respondents said they got drunk 33 times in the last year. This number was 50 times in the US and 48 times in Canada. The rate was much lower in countries such as Chile, where they got drunk 16 times a year.

The Global Drug Survey, of more than 120,000 substance-users worldwide, also found that England has the highest rate of people having tried cocaine in the world.

In England, 74% of participants reported having used cocaine at some point in their lives, compared with 43% globally. Use of the drug in the past year among people from England who responded went up from 43% in 2018’s survey to 64% this year.

More than 70% of participants also said they would support a free-trade regulated cocaine market, with 85% of these individuals willing to pay more for the drug, on average 25% more.

Researchers based in London surveyed 5,670 people from England, 566 from Scotland and tens of thousands worldwide between 29 October and 30 December last year. The report did not provide a breakdown of the number of people surveyed in Northern Ireland and Wales.

Those behind the report believe it may be time to introduce guidelines on how to get drunk safely, which would reach binge drinkers who may view upper limits as “irrelevant”.

The study comes amid an overall downward trend of drinking levels in the UK, with abstention on the rise, particularly among young adults.
Prof Adam Winstock, the founder of the Global Drug Survey, said while more people were abstaining from alcohol, many of those who were drinking are doing so in a potentially harmful way.
He said: “We get told too much is bad, and it is, but current guidelines fail to accept the pleasure of intoxication and give little guide on the difference between being a little drunk and a lot drunk, and doing it three to four times a year versus weekly. We need to have that conversation.

“In the UK we don’t tend to do moderation, we end up getting drunk as the point of the evening.

“Until culture changes and we become more European and moderate in our drinking, we might have to bite the bullet and think about how to advise people to get drunk drinking less.”

Current NHS guidelines say there is no safe level of drinking and that men and women should not drink more than 14 units of alcohol a week on a regular basis – about six pints of beer. It is understood officials have no plans to amend advice at this stage.

English-speaking countries lead the way for how often their citizens get drunk, with the US, Canada and Australia closely following the UK at the top of the global rankings.

The report also highlighted the fact England had a high rate of cocaine use. It comes as 43% of respondents said they would like to use less cocaine next year, and 1.5% of 2018’s users sought emergency medical treatment after taking the drug, up from 1.1% in 2017.

Meanwhile, the number of hospital admissions in England for mental health disorders linked to cocaine use has almost trebled in the past decade, official figures show. NHS Digital data has shown that between 2017-18 there were 14,470 admissions where patients were experiencing mental and behavioural disorders due to use of cocaine. The number was up year on year, substantially higher than the 5,148 between 2007-08. The figures did not distinguish between powdered cocaine and crack cocaine.

The report also suggested that people would be willing to pay more for fair trade cocaine. (?!?!?)

Harry Sumnall, a lecturer in mental health at the University of York, said: “There are also still health risks associated with cocaine use … It can be a harmful drug, especially when mixed with alcohol.

“[The idea of fair trade cocaine] stems from a lot of broader discussions around culpability and the ethics of using drugs. It is impossible to use drugs like cocaine because of the nature of the international market. It is impossible to use it without having a detrimental international impact.”

James Nicholls, the chief executive of Transform Drug Policy Foundation, said: “Not only is cocaine use growing in the UK, it is also becoming purer and cheaper. Meanwhile, producers continue to suffer because they operate completely outside of the law, including employment and trade law. They can only dream of fair trade arrangements.

“Not only has prohibition failed to stem demand, as this data clearly shows, it has created a violent and exploitative market. If we are to have any chance of getting a better deal for farmers and suppliers, we must first legally regulate the market in order to get it under some level of control.”

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:36 pm 
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The Global Drug Survey, of more than 120,000 substance-users worldwide, also found that England has the highest rate of people having tried cocaine in the world.



I remember being shocked seeing what seemed to be high school or teen-aged kids openly doing coke at one of the clubs we were hanging out at in Liverpool last year.

I never see it out here in California.


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Coke is now the drug du jure in Colorado. Meth is old hat.

But you don't see many people openly snorting it here unlike what Foota describes.

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I thought coke was an 80's fad.


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PBFMullethunter wrote:
I thought coke was an 80's fad.



Lol...

It's got even bigger than it ever was.


I've never tried it.....never want to. I have a very addictive personality.

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Foota wrote:
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The Global Drug Survey, of more than 120,000 substance-users worldwide, also found that England has the highest rate of people having tried cocaine in the world.



I remember being shocked seeing what seemed to be high school or teen-aged kids openly doing coke at one of the clubs we were hanging out at in Liverpool last year.

I never see it out here in California.


Probably because your teens are too busy high as balls on opioids and dribbling on themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:05 pm 
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Umm...

Sorry.

Usually do a few lines when we're out and about.

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So who is today’s Pablo Escobar? Who makes it and ships it to Engerlund? ‘Cuz we all know you guys don’t make anything of value yourselves.


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Holyman wrote:
Umm...

Sorry.

Usually do a few lines when we're out and about.

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Back in the 90s I did speed a few dozen times. Fucking loved it but the come down was rough.

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I have about 5 cigarettes a year.

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I have about 5 cigarettes a year.



oh you fucking rebel you!

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I’ve still got half a pack that I bought in 2003.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:09 am 
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I've done coke maybe three times, same with speed. Didn't like either much. Much preferred weed.

Coke's reasonably common here in Oz, mostly at the rich end of town. Ice is the scourge of the nation though. Nasty, nasty drug.


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MIDNIGHT wrote:
All you fuckers are degenerates


Padre Midnight sounds jealous. :P


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I feel like coke is the choice of assholes who want to become even bigger assholes.

Then there’s meth for people who want to go on a robbery spree.

Meh. Booze and occasional weed for me.


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MIDNIGHT wrote:
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Padre Midnight sounds jealous. :P




Well I did smuggle dope from Morocco to Spain, but it was just that one time. :-?

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I once did 12 hits of acid and tripped for almost 4 days
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I once did 12 hits of acid and tripped for almost 4 days
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Like I said, fucking degenerates

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Htown0666 wrote:
I once did 12 hits of acid and tripped for almost 4 days
I win



Like I said, fucking degenerates


On my last trip of acid (Californian Sunshine) I had the flu coming on and didn't know. We went to an afternoon screening of 2001 A Space Odyssey, which was a Thursday treat for all the dope and acid heads in Melbourne in the early 1970s. When we came out into the 100 degree heat, I totally freaked out and spent all that day and night in a living hell, before being taken to A&E with a pulse rate of 240, babbling out of my head. I was doped up on morphine till I passed out. Six months later I had flashbacks and a total nervous breakdown, which lasted for months.

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 6:01 am 
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Y'all stopped.

I win.

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FFS this just reminds me how much I miss true English handpulled ales......none of that carbonated crap they have here.

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LeadMagnet wrote:
FFS this just reminds me how much I miss true English handpulled ales......none of that carbonated crap they have here.



There are so many ales nowadays as it's had a huge resurgence in the past few years. Love it!

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